Barrett and Luna focus their conversation on the recent train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, the 5-acre fire in Kissimmee, Florida, and the recent mass shooting at Michigan State University. These events expose the pervasiveness of ethnocide in industrial society and emphasize the importance of creating a sustainable good place, or what Barrett calls Eǔtopia (ev-topia).
Episode recorded on 2/17/23. Produced by Hannah Loder.
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